Host: Sam Shad

Guests:
Pat Mulroy, Senior Fellow at Brookings Mountain West

"You have to sit back and say, how much of this is just an unbridled bureaucracy just looking to perpetuate itself and what portion of this is actually needed? "

- Pat Mulroy, Senior Fellow at Brookings Mountain West who says while the Trump policy on climate change is schizophrenic the Obama policy on the environment swung too far to the left.